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Way to turn my statement on it's head. I suppose perception is everything. Firstly, I wasn't trying to relate the Gifford's shooting to your demands to see Obama's records, as you well know. I was merely stating that there will be a lunatic fringe that will take these conspiracy theories to heart and may act on them.


Perception?  Let's look at your previous statement -
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You've already had one Democrat shot in these pas few months.
  Now that is a direct accusation in which you blame me, and others like me, for the fact that a lunatic shot Gifford.

What are you trying to say?  That we should be like you and bow down and accept whatever Obama claims as being factual, regardless of how impossible his claims may be?  You yourself appear to understand that the Obama "certificate" can not possibly be a true image of an original record, and say that it was probably
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touched up for legibility
Any such "touching up" would be totally unnecessary, and would disqualify the record for the very reason that it has obviously been altered.  If an original record does exist, it would have been stored in a controlled environment, and not exposed to sunlight or wear and tear.  It would remain in fairly pristine, and very legible condition, and could certainly be directly photographed in a single layer high resolution image, just as the Edith Coats or Susan Nordyke documents, which would show a true image of the document in its original state.  It would have been so simple to do if a true original document exists, so aren't you at least curious as to why Obama's "certificate" is not an authentic image of any original birth record?  Evidently, it doesn't matter to you that Obama's claim of this "certificate" being a copy of the original is an outright lie, but it does matter to those of us who seek and demand the truth be fully revealed, and who will not bow down and accept such obvious falsehoods as realities.

Contrary to your claim, this has absolutely nothing to do with any conspiracy theory.  That Obama's "certifiicate" is not a true image of an original birth record is 100% fact, not theory.  Again, look at the Susan Nordyke certificate true photographic copied image.  She was born the day after Obama (if Obama's birth date is factual), so his birth record should look like hers (same coloration and background pattern) but it certainly does not.  When asked how the Obama "certificate" was created, the Hawaii DOH said that they put the original document in a copier and copied it onto safety paper (the green patterned background).  That may sound logical to you and other O-bots, but if true then the Obama "certificate" would look very similar to the image shown below, which is Susan Nordyke's original certificate photocopy superimposed upon the Obama document's patterned background.


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Clearly the administration has done a professional job that's hoodwinked most of the World or the documents are genuine.


Obama's "certificate" should be realized by any sane, reasonable, knowledgeable, and discerning truth seeker as not being what Obama claims it to be, and as proving nothing whatsoever other than the fact that it is not valid proof of a Hawaiian birth, since it does not prove the existence of a valid original birth record.  Anyone who has been fooled into believing his "certificate" establishes any claim by Obama as factual is either not interested in factual reality, is willing to simply believe whatever Obama or the lamestream media spoon feeds them, or is wallowing in a cesspool of denial and delusion.

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In summary, you can't keep asking someone for 'genuine' documentation if you inherently don't trust them because you're bias is always going to get in the way.


Again, we are not asking, we are demanding to see the original record, if any such record exists.  We the people have an inherent right to know the facts concerning who the person is that sits in the Oval Office and leads our country.  The reason why we do not trust Obama has nothing to do with racial prejudice or a biased belief system.  Rather, the reason why we do not trust Obama is because he has lied to us over and over and over again, and continually evades honest disclosure of factual documentation. A good example of this is the following video of a live Obama campaign speech, where he lied 7 times in less than two minutes.  Be sure to take your blinders off, and remove your ear plugs before viewing and listening to the video.

  
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Please contact your congressman and demand this illegal traitorous felon Obama be impeached and removed from office ASAP! Thank you. Dr. Jerome Corsi: Obama's birth certificate is 100% forged; Inside sources say Hawaii made Obama's forged Certificate of Live Birth and placed it in the Hawaii DOH book. The interview was on the Peter Boyles show and aired on 5/18/11 http://www.BirtherReport.com

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DUMB ASS!!


You shouldn't be that rude to Obama.

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Yeah! And I heard he's hiding aliens in the white house basement, kills kittens, and eats bald eagles for thanksgiving! Get over it! We have a black pres. wether you like it or not!
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Juvenile.  Black President....way to avoid the issue.  How do you know I'm not black?  It seems you are the one who needs to get over it.  Too, as is typical of Obama defenders who have a knee-jerk defense, you haven't debated the issues.  Just 3rd grade rhetoric.  It appears you are on the wrong side.

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How do I know you're not black? Call it a gut feeling. And there is no " issue" to avoid! Since he was elected it has been the stated goal of the republican party to remove him from office by almost any means. So if there was an " issue" with his citizenship, don't you think he would have been up for impeachment by now? As for being on the " wrong side", I am on the side that supports my country and it's elected leader. What side are you on?
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Your gut feeling is racist.  You are assuming people who question Obama's legitimacy are not black.

The issues to avoid, and I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here that you haven't actually looked at the issue at all, are that he was a dual-citizen at birth and hence not eligible for the Presidency.

Also that he may have been adopted in Indonesia, which may also have disqualified him further.

Really, it is the idea that a man can seal all his personal records in the face of suspicious evidence and be forced on intelligent voters who know better by an adoring Obama-worshipping electorate who don't care what rules are broken that makes me take the side I am on.  I am on the right side.

Your arguments, by the way, don't show much knowledge of the issues and are, I dare say, lazy.  "They would have stopped him by now" is ridiculous.  It is tantamount to, "the government always does the right thing."
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My mother always told me not to argue with crazy people or their crazy rubs off on you. So good luck w/ your conspiracy, we can all use a good chuckle now and then
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My mother always told me not to argue with crazy people or their crazy rubs off on you.


It appears that somewhere along the line you forgot to heed your mother's advice.
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Exactly.  "Momma said..."  because you know dang well you have no clue what the arguments are.

Let's see.....Obama's not a natural born citizen.
Wait, he is because:
1) You're racist.
2) He was voted in.
3) Momma told me....

I rest my case.
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Fake, flase, reproduced, counterfeit, forgery, manipulated, what else can I say.

http://www.wheresobamasbirthcertificate.com

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My mother always told me not to argue with crazy people or their crazy rubs off on you. So good luck w/ your conspiracy, we can all use a good chuckle now and then

Are you blind? Now go pick up your welfare check.


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How do I know you're not black? Call it a gut feeling. And there is no " issue" to avoid! Since he was elected it has been the stated goal of the republican party to remove him from office by almost any means. So if there was an " issue" with his citizenship, don't you think he would have been up for impeachment by now? As for being on the " wrong side", I am on the side that supports my country and it's elected leader. What side are you on?

Hey stupid I started my web site BEFORE he was elected so there goes your theory.

http://www.wheresobamasbirthcertificate.com

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